Curse

Stur · May 18, 2005, 12:08 PM // 12:08

OK A-NET lesson up. I'm not one of those people wanting everything handed to me as far as skills and stuff but I think you guys have been hanging out with the Lineage 2 team to much over there at NC Soft. Up the drops for petes sake, making item upgrades so hard to find is just pointless, I'm 14th level and have made it to lions Arch and I've only gotten a couple of runes, things should drop as I travel around, exploring, enhancing my gaming experience. This is NOT L2 A-NET, I should not have to farm!

Ok rant off, have a nice day

RTSFirebat · May 18, 2005, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Would make everything more common, lowering the price of everything, increasing "WTS/WTB rune X" spam, and just upset a lot of people... but you must understand rare item drops become more common as you move into increasing hard areas.

Imorine · May 18, 2005, 01:07 PM // 13:07

the drop rates are set up so that before u hit the desert you will get just enough to buy all your armor and a better weapon. at the desert (lv 16+) you will notice a massive increase on upgrade item drops. after the desert they will start to annoy u. also after riverside u should definatly get 1 rare or purple drop per mission (maby not u but party at least).

Chev of Hardass · May 18, 2005, 08:31 PM // 20:31

For the last patch there was supposed to be an increase in drops. There was none. For the last mission, I got 1 purple Titan Armor. In that purple Titan Armor was 1 minor rune of sould reaping. I have three of those now. Why, on the LAST mission of the game, do I get minor runes?

I have only unlocked one superior rune. That was a Superior Rune of Death Magic, which I do not use and the Armor salvaged into Taned Hides.

The game has become a grind looking for Runes, Weapons, and crafting items. Unfortunately there are no good places to farm, except for money.

Someone confirm this.

Vangor · May 18, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

I've never personally unlocked a superior rune, and have continued to get numerous weak runes, however, I've noticed an increase, and am not complaining. Many people unlock major runes almost every run, and I can only imagine what the few reservists unlock who aren't shouting it out.

Granted I would like to see a tendency towards unlocking more useful and currently locked items, as well as salvaging and pick ups of those more useful items. This way, I'm not picking up a rare staff with +energy +health and someone isn't getting a rare axe, or I am actually getting items with iron and steel yields instead of a mass of cloth.

Palinore_Of_The_Lake · May 18, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43

i agree , most of the items looted are salvagable items that gets you either components or runes but that's about it.

They need to add a slight vareity lootwise, just my 2 cents

FFF_WarRaven · May 19, 2005, 12:26 AM // 00:26

i think there could be some better drops , i have been in a few groups that 1 person would get most of the rare purple etc items, then i gotta try to get him to give one up or sell it to me, that kinda sucks, now what really pisses me off is, within 3 quests/mission i pick up 5 gold/yellow items, everyone of them gave 20+ iron ingots, rather than a rune or an upgrade, i have all the ingots i'll ever need for crying out loud, and yes i used an expert kit on them, why have even bothered to get them in the first place, rare item? suuree not when they turn into common crafting items. 5 in a row ...gotta love it, i have been thinking of just selling these items pre-salvaged and let some other sap try their hand at salvaging them....just my luck they get the rune or upgrade....usually purple/blue gimme good stuff, but as far as gold/yellow items go im better off gold hunting and buying what i want.

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Lasher Dragon · May 19, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by FFF_WarRaven

now what really pisses me off is, within 3 quests/mission i pick up 5 gold/yellow items, everyone of them gave 20+ iron ingots

This has happened to me a lot since the "update" - I get all excited finding a gold/purple salvage item, ID it, nothing, Expert Salvage it, tons of crafting materials I neither use nor need. Yeah, they are nice to sell to the Material Trader when the price is right, but I'd much rather unlock something, be it some minor rune or weapon upgrade.

horohoro08 · May 19, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05

i'd be pretty happy if the drop rate is increased, also Anet needs to fix the drops, this happened to me A LOT, not sure about all of the other players, i get these purple or gold salvage items not the "unidentified" ones, just an ultra rare junk, and i ID it, nothing comes out, i can sell it for 39 gold... just a plain golden rare salvage item.. wtf

Shagsbeard · May 19, 2005, 01:31 PM // 13:31

No to "better" drops. That way leads to an inflationary spiral and the game spins wildly out of the control of the developers (DAoC).

No to more frequent drops. C'mon... you admit yourself that you are level 14. You haven't even gotten 1/4 the way through the content of the game and you want to change a major facet of the game based on your experience?

Neo Anchorite · May 19, 2005, 02:08 PM // 14:08

I think the frequency of the drops is fine. That is one of the great parts about this game. You never know what you are going to pickup along the way. If the rare drops were more frequent it would take away from that excitement.

Neo

EnDinG · May 19, 2005, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Had 3 purple salvage items drop for me yesterday. I ended up with nothing from them except for some Iron. Wasn't too happy.

Chev of Hardass · May 19, 2005, 02:33 PM // 14:33

I spent about 4 hours, with three ascended guildmates last night, farming.

Got nothing worth keeping. Unlocked 0 runes between the four of us. Made about 1500 gold by selling all the crap items straight to the marchant. There was nothing to even try and sell to the public. Talk about unhappy.

Ohh, and the more short supply items are, the higher the prices. Come on, let's talk economics for a second. Supply and Demand.

If items were more common there not be any need for the rape job that happens when you need to buy a weeapon or rune.

Currently the Superior Fire rune is sold for about 40K. No one in my guild has found one. So it would appear that the guild that finds the Superior Fire Rune has a distinct advantage over the guild that does not.

Thank you for the grind.

JYX · May 19, 2005, 03:32 PM // 15:32

really...I'm at Aurora Glade so far and I can recall a grand total of 0 runes...unless I'm majorly mistaken...not 1 rune. Nothing. I'm gonna have to buy them from a trading site because farming for items is utterly ridiculous considering the drop rate here. Its completely pointless. I've had 2 gold items so far and 5 purples...all that came from the last 2 missions, which was pretty good...but the randomness of it still convinces me that its futile to actively seek them. Which brings me to the next part of my post:

Give us auction houses. Ye gods I need auction houses. Right now the "system" in place simply encourages people making up values, I have no idea what the going rate on many things are, simply because often there is no such thing. Also finding the exact item you want is like a lottery with all the different districts...and if you find the right spammy message for you is also a lottery. We need a kind of in-game ebay system.

Corwin_Andros · May 19, 2005, 04:00 PM // 16:00

I have an ascended Wa/El and have yet to find a major or superior rune. I found plenty of minors to the point I give them away to my guildmates and more than enough weapon upgades...Unfortunately only one or two for my sword.. with basically NO farming. The closest I do to farming is when I'm bored I'll go slumming in the Breach or Diessa Lowlands and wipe out every living thing on the map besides 'lil 'ol me.

I don't do it looking for cool stuff and usually am hoping for a dye drop which I get less often than runes or upgrdes either one.. more because I get bored playing with just henchies if my guildmates aren't on. I enjoy PvP for short periods.. Can't for the life of me understand how anyone could do it for hours on end, but that's me. ANyhow I do pretty well when I do with the few things I have.

It would be nice to get better drops of higher runes and things in the higher level areas a BIT more steadily. THe thing is when I play with henchies and only one or 2 people I just know that those rare and decent drops are coming, but the henchies are getting them..

FFF_WarRaven · May 20, 2005, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Shagsbeard

No to "better" drops. That way leads to an inflationary spiral and the game spins wildly out of the control of the developers (DAoC).

No to more frequent drops. C'mon... you admit yourself that you are level 14. You haven't even gotten 1/4 the way through the content of the game and you want to change a major facet of the game based on your experience?

my point is not better drops i get plenty of purple yellow/gold items and with my guild we hook each other up with with items that each other can use and/or want, my complaint is the percentage of salvaging something from an unlocked item, i have done a few arena pvp, which is cool but i dont play on seriously getting into pvp untill i have gone thru ascending and opeing a few areas i have missed in the RPG section.

If i pick up a gold item, and it unlocks from an id then i want it to salvo into that item, at least a lot more than what it has, every gold item i have salvo'd, execpt for 1 ( superior rune of vigor, WHAT LUCK!!!!bows to the gods.lol) has turned into a common crafting item, i believe this to be absurd.

so much for it being an EXPERT KIT, the word here is EXPERT, would an expert dwarvan hammer crafter create a pos? from the understanding of magical lore, no it would be magical etc....

so i basically spent 400 gps to get a semi expert/common salvoing kit....wow its like buying a lottery kit. I end up having to spend hours selling to lower level characters to make the money to buy an item i need or want, never mind the trully expensive armors and weapons that can be about for xx,xxx$ gps, i have yet to get over 15,000gps bying and trading etc.

i don't think the drops are bad i just think the salvoing percentage should either be adjusted to gain more items from them being unlocked or just gimme the item straight out.

i wonder what the mantel would say if they tried salvoing the scepter of orr and it turned into a tanned hide square!!!!

lmao.

owell heres a lollipop kid.

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Adaria · May 20, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

The last update wasn't to increase drops, it was to lower the rarity of linen, silk and fur squares. You'd know that if you read the update page, but NOT to increase drops.

The henchies DO get items and sometimes, I'm sure they do get them. Seven to one henchies/human players lowers your chances of getting a good rare drop, one in eight times. If there were all rare drops for eight monsters, you'd have chances to get at least one of those, or maybe not.

Fact of the matter is, the drops are there, but henchies take a cut in gold and loot as payment, they don't use them, but it makes the game more fair, though seeing more drops for human players would be nice when we're outnumbered seven to one, or six to two as me and a friend often are...

Lasher Dragon · May 20, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Adaria

The last update wasn't to increase drops, it was to lower the rarity of linen, silk and fur squares. You'd know that if you read the update page, but NOT to increase drops.

Ummmm...

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Originally Posted by GW Website

Increased drop rates for Uncommon and Rare items in Explorable Areas.

Where's the confusion in that?

Chev of Hardass · May 20, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

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Originally Posted by Adaria

The henchies DO get items and sometimes, I'm sure they do get them. Seven to one henchies/human players lowers your chances of getting a good rare drop, one in eight times. If there were all rare drops for eight monsters, you'd have chances to get at least one of those, or maybe not.

I farm alone, or with guildmates. That is what farming is. The henchmen are not to blame.

So, is there are reason that you type at all?

Ha ha I am just joking with you. Or am I.

Adaria · May 21, 2005, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Ok so excuse me for being wrong...

Just forget I said anything then if you're going to be smart-arsed...